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What happened to Lisp.org?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:04 am
by taylor_venable
That used to be what I used to read the Hyperspec, but I can't even ping it these last few weeks.

Re: What happened to Lisp.org?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:11 am
by findinglisp
I have no idea. IMO, lisp.org has been unstable for a long time now. I have no idea who actually keeps that infrastructure running. I know Zach has the planet.lisp.org domain delegated to him and he runs his own server, so that's unrelated.

Personally, I either read the Hyperspec at the Lispworks site (http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/common-lisp.html), or I download it and keep it local (typically the latter since it's faster and I never have the problem of a site becoming unreachable right as I'm trying to work through a Lisp coding problem). If you're working on a Fedora system, you can download an RPM package of the Hyperspec from fedoralisp.org.

Re: What happened to Lisp.org?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:28 pm
by tayssir
Oops, forgot to respond. Duane Rettig mentioned:

The ALU's machine, "bibop", has crashed hard. We're working very hard
to bring the website back up. Part of the problem is that bibop is a
very old machine, and we had already been discussing replacement
strategies. The crash comes at a bad time, so we may host the website
on another machine temporarily. Sorry for the inconvenience, and
thanks for your patience.

Re: What happened to Lisp.org?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:10 pm
by tayssir
BTW, it's pretty interesting to see how AI-era Lisp users deal with... webserver crashes. His post was from 11 days ago.

The ALU has always been an enigma to me. ;)

Re: What happened to Lisp.org?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:14 am
by theclapp
tayssir wrote:BTW, it's pretty interesting to see how AI-era Lisp users deal with... webserver crashes. His post was from 11 days ago.

The ALU has always been an enigma to me.

I'll bite. :) What does having used Lisp 20 years ago, or being a member of the ALU board, have to do with the response to a server going down? Surely anyone anywhere can have too few tuits to deal with some random disaster that doesn't directly affect them?

Re: What happened to Lisp.org?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:47 am
by tayssir
theclapp wrote:I'll bite. :) What does having used Lisp 20 years ago, or being a member of the ALU board, have to do with the response to a server going down? Surely anyone anywhere can have too few tuits to deal with some random disaster that doesn't directly affect them?


Excuse me -- does that post come across as very critical? If so, I could edit it.

(In fact I momentarily did, since I just saw your post before I ran out of the house, but I reverted it back.)

Re: What happened to Lisp.org?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:33 am
by theclapp
tayssir wrote:
theclapp wrote:I'll bite. :) What does having used Lisp 20 years ago, or being a member of the ALU board, have to do with the response to a server going down? Surely anyone anywhere can have too few tuits to deal with some random disaster that doesn't directly affect them?

Excuse me -- does that post come across as very critical? If so, I could edit it.

"Very critical"? No. Barely even critical. I hope mine didn't come across as anything more than amused confusion. I'm just honestly curious why you would associate their response to a server going down with their AI era Lispiness.