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Lisp mailing-list ?

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:27 pm
by xma
Hi,

Do you know a way to receive comp.lang.lisp in mail format ? I am no longer reading Usenet (due to lot of spams) and I miss it. I need to find the perfect Usenet<->mail service (even non free as in free beer) :)

Apart that, is there any other good lisp mailing-list one should read ?

Regards

Re: Lisp mailing-list ?

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:47 pm
by findinglisp
xma wrote:Hi,

Do you know a way to receive comp.lang.lisp in mail format ? I am no longer reading Usenet (due to lot of spams) and I miss it. I need to find the perfect Usenet<->mail service (even non free as in free beer) :)

Apart that, is there any other good lisp mailing-list one should read ?
So you want to read c.l.l in email format because there is too much spam on c.l.l... :?: :?: :?:

Did I get that right? What's the punchline on this one? :D

Re: Lisp mailing-list ?

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:09 pm
by xma
I want to get rid of spam from usenet and thus avoid reading/postin from/to usenet thus the need for a usenet<->mail service provider (with spam filtering on their servers). CLL is ont of the groups I was reading (amongst other)

Re: Lisp mailing-list ?

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:59 pm
by findinglisp
Okay, gotcha. Apologies, I was just chuckling a bit because I always find that email, even with spam filters, has boat-loads of spam. I have finally concluded that there really is no escape from spam, unfortunately. :(

Re: Lisp mailing-list ?

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:28 am
by xma
findinglisp wrote:Okay, gotcha. Apologies, I was just chuckling a bit because I always find that email, even with spam filters, has boat-loads of spam. I have finally concluded that there really is no escape from spam, unfortunately. :(
Sadly, I agree :/

Re: Lisp mailing-list ?

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:14 am
by wm.annis
Parasites always find a way to suck up high-quality resources.

Re: Lisp mailing-list ?

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:44 am
by Dave
The spam on usenet is something that irritates me as well. I tried creating rules to filter out spam but plenty still got through. I now have only one rule, to filter any subject that doesn't begin with 'Re:' which traps almost all spam. It does filter out the opening message of a thread as well but the relevant parts are usually quoted in the replies. I'm sure there are better ways than this, but it's ok for me.

Re: Lisp mailing-list ?

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:46 pm
by xma
Concerning my usenet2mail and viceversa, do you have something ? :)

Re: Lisp mailing-list ?

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:55 pm
by schoppenhauer
Dave wrote:The spam on usenet is something that irritates me as well. I tried creating rules to filter out spam but plenty still got through. I now have only one rule, to filter any subject that doesn't begin with 'Re:' which traps almost all spam. It does filter out the opening message of a thread as well but the relevant parts are usually quoted in the replies. I'm sure there are better ways than this, but it's ok for me.
Hm... If that really works, one could just "restore" the opening messages after an answer was sent - but if everyone did this, noone would ever be able to give an answer, because noone would see any Re:-Postings... Except from Spam-Mails, because the Spammers would learn from that.

Re: Lisp mailing-list ?

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:22 pm
by Dave
schoppenhauer wrote:
Dave wrote:The spam on usenet is something that irritates me as well. I tried creating rules to filter out spam but plenty still got through. I now have only one rule, to filter any subject that doesn't begin with 'Re:' which traps almost all spam. It does filter out the opening message of a thread as well but the relevant parts are usually quoted in the replies. I'm sure there are better ways than this, but it's ok for me.
Hm... If that really works, one could just "restore" the opening messages after an answer was sent - but if everyone did this, noone would ever be able to give an answer, because noone would see any Re:-Postings... Except from Spam-Mails, because the Spammers would learn from that.
schoppenhauer.

I accept your point, but I don't take the view that because it wouldn't work if everyone did it that nobody should be allowed to do it. Many people lurk on Usenet or boards such as this and if everyone did that nobody would reply, but I think people should be allowed to lurk if they want to. As I look down my newsreader this morning I don't have a single piece of spam and I'm not in any great hurry to see it back again.

Sorry xma, didn't mean to go off topic.